1 00:00:07,490 --> 00:00:04,610 hello it's Wednesday August 2nd 2017 you 2 00:00:10,190 --> 00:00:07,500 are listening to inception Radio Network 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:10,200 voice of the fringe majority this is 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:14,690 Carol Caro with UFO headline news 5 00:00:20,750 --> 00:00:17,490 the moon and the ringed planet Saturn 6 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:20,760 pair up together at nightfall in the 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:23,160 same vicinity of the sky you can note 8 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:25,890 another bright celestial beauty that 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:28,740 ruddy star and Taurus the brightest star 10 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:30,810 in the constellation Scorpius the 11 00:00:37,010 --> 00:00:33,600 scorpion the writer of our article here 12 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:37,020 Bruce McClure for Earth's sky org and he 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:39,600 says clouded out tonight not to worry 14 00:00:45,139 --> 00:00:41,610 you watch for them tomorrow night as 15 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:45,149 well Saturn and Antares are bright they 16 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:47,070 both exhibit that first magnitude 17 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,559 brightness but you can distinguish 18 00:00:54,860 --> 00:00:51,600 between these two celestial luminaries 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:54,870 by color Saturn displays a golden hue 20 00:00:59,900 --> 00:00:57,570 and Antares as we know has that ruddy 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:00:59,910 complexion if it's hard for you to 22 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:02,010 discern the color try using a pair of 23 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:04,019 binoculars if you can get your hands on 24 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:06,330 them and that way you can see Saturn and 25 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:10,110 Antares a little closer better yet try a 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:13,500 telescope Oh devoutly to be sought you 27 00:01:19,070 --> 00:01:15,810 can view Saturn's glorious rings even 28 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:19,080 with a modest backyard variety did you 29 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:21,240 know that as seen from Earth the 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:24,030 orientation of Saturn's rings appears to 31 00:01:29,810 --> 00:01:27,450 shift regularly over time we did not 32 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:29,820 know that this happens as we orbit the 33 00:01:35,149 --> 00:01:32,369 Sun yearly while Saturn orbits once 34 00:01:38,690 --> 00:01:35,159 every twenty nine point five years this 35 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:38,700 year 2017 as we gaze across space to 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:40,860 Saturn we are seeing the North Face of 37 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:43,530 Saturn's rings these rings are inclined 38 00:01:48,499 --> 00:01:46,110 at 27 degrees toward the earth this year 39 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:48,509 which is about as wide open as they ever 40 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:50,939 appear to us from our world we see the 41 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:53,100 North Face of the Rings for about 15 42 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,439 years and nine months and then the South 43 00:02:00,350 --> 00:01:57,840 Face for about thirteen years and nine 44 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:00,360 months that difference the two years is 45 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:03,000 due to Saturn's eccentric orbit with a 46 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:05,399 planet traveling most swiftly at its 47 00:02:10,279 --> 00:02:07,710 perihelion and more slowly at its 48 00:02:12,860 --> 00:02:10,289 aphelion the north side of Saturn's 49 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:12,870 rings will open up most fully October 50 00:02:19,870 --> 00:02:16,260 26th 20:17 at that point they'll exhibit 51 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:19,880 that maximum inclination of 27 degrees 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:22,230 thereafter the inclination of Saturn's 53 00:02:27,590 --> 00:02:24,690 rings will slowly but surely diminish 54 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:27,600 until the Rings appear edge-on that's 55 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:30,450 going to happen in 2025 a mark your 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:33,360 calendar at this juncture Saturn's rings 57 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:35,370 will appear invisible to earthly 58 00:02:39,770 --> 00:02:36,900 observers for about a month and a half 59 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:39,780 that's because the Rings are so thin in 60 00:02:44,810 --> 00:02:42,900 contrast to their width backwards in 61 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:44,820 time the astronomer Christiaan Huygens 62 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:47,400 or Higgins some pronounce it that way 63 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:53,310 it's spelled hu YG ENS in 1629 to 1695 64 00:02:57,650 --> 00:02:55,890 had an explanation for the periodic 65 00:03:00,890 --> 00:02:57,660 disappearance of Saturn's rings and 66 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:00,900 something he titled Systema ass eternium 67 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:04,710 that was published in 1659 if you're 68 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:07,530 into the look of old writings old papers 69 00:03:11,450 --> 00:03:09,570 there's an incredible graphic that 70 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:11,460 accompanies this story you can find a 71 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:14,070 link to it later at UFO headline news 72 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:17,280 calm it shows you a page from Higgins 73 00:03:25,370 --> 00:03:20,910 Systema Saturnian it's cool the bottom 74 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:25,380 line on August 2nd 2017 use the moon to 75 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:27,510 locate the ringed planet Saturn as 76 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:30,930 darkness falls missing tonight try again 77 00:03:35,930 --> 00:03:33,209 tomorrow night and speaking of going 78 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:35,940 back in time well it is way back 79 00:03:42,020 --> 00:03:38,310 Wednesday so coming up is part two of 80 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:42,030 the alien shot dead by military police 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:44,630 don't go away but now let's talk about 82 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:47,730 Proxima be it's another article from 83 00:03:52,699 --> 00:03:50,360 earth sky org written by Deborah bird 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:52,709 interestingly enough this article has 85 00:03:58,970 --> 00:03:55,170 two headlines we found one is an 86 00:04:01,100 --> 00:03:58,980 earth-like atmosphere for Proxima be but 87 00:04:04,820 --> 00:04:01,110 the other one is no earth like 88 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:04,830 atmosphere for Proxima be so let's see 89 00:04:10,970 --> 00:04:07,470 how this works out here's the story in 90 00:04:12,740 --> 00:04:10,980 August 2016 when scientists announced 91 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:12,750 the discovery of a planet orbiting the 92 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:15,410 nearest known star Proxima Centauri 93 00:04:21,710 --> 00:04:18,660 people got excited that's largely 94 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:21,720 because it's not just any planet it's a 95 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:24,500 planet similar to size in earth-orbiting 96 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:27,040 in its star's habitable zone that 97 00:04:34,630 --> 00:04:29,870 Goldilocks zone where everything is just 98 00:04:38,290 --> 00:04:34,640 right at 4.2 light-years or 25 trillion 99 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:38,300 miles to earth Proxima B is vastly too 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:40,250 far away to be explored in our lifetimes 101 00:04:44,530 --> 00:04:42,530 although that hasn't stopped dreamers 102 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:44,540 and visionaries like the folks at 103 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:46,280 breakthrough initiatives they're 104 00:04:52,090 --> 00:04:49,630 devising plans to explore this still 105 00:04:54,910 --> 00:04:52,100 theoretical studies are the order of the 106 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:54,920 day for Proxima be a recent one suggests 107 00:05:01,630 --> 00:04:59,330 that Proxima be quote may not be able to 108 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:01,640 keep a grip on its atmosphere leaving 109 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:03,830 the surface exposed to harmful stellar 110 00:05:10,270 --> 00:05:06,470 radiation and reducing its potential for 111 00:05:12,490 --> 00:05:10,280 habitability end quote the habitable 112 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:12,500 zone to astronomers means the potential 113 00:05:18,450 --> 00:05:14,930 for liquid water to exist on a planet's 114 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:18,460 surface life as we know it needs water 115 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:20,990 but an atmosphere is another essential 116 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:24,050 ingredient for life the team statement 117 00:05:28,690 --> 00:05:26,270 said this quote having the right 118 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:28,700 atmosphere allows for climate regulation 119 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:30,800 the maintenance of a water friendly 120 00:05:35,950 --> 00:05:33,020 surface pressure and shielding from 121 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:35,960 hazardous space weather and in addition 122 00:05:41,770 --> 00:05:38,390 the housing of life's chemical building 123 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:41,780 blocks end quote this new computer model 124 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:43,910 which was part of a NASA study was 125 00:05:48,490 --> 00:05:46,820 published July 24th 2017 in the 126 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:48,500 peer-reviewed Astrophysical Journal 127 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:51,650 Letters considered what would happen if 128 00:05:56,770 --> 00:05:54,800 earth orbited Proxima Centauri the study 129 00:05:58,810 --> 00:05:56,780 suggests Earth's atmosphere wouldn't 130 00:06:01,720 --> 00:05:58,820 survive in such close proximity to 131 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:01,730 Proxima which is an active red dwarf 132 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:04,330 star that emits high-energy extreme 133 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:07,730 ultraviolet radiation this radiation has 134 00:06:12,580 --> 00:06:09,980 the potential to ionize gases in a 135 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:12,590 planet's atmosphere that is it knocks 136 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,370 electrons off atoms and produces a swath 137 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:18,800 of electrically charged particles in 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:21,710 this process the newly formed electrons 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:24,170 gain enough energy that they can readily 140 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:26,690 escape a planet's gravity and race out 141 00:06:32,470 --> 00:06:29,810 of the atmosphere on earth this clearly 142 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:32,480 isn't happening but our Sun is a more 143 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:35,270 sedate star than Proxima Kathryn Garcia 144 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:38,090 sage a space scientist NASA's Goddard 145 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:39,530 Space Flight Center in Greenbelt 146 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:42,290 Maryland she and her colleagues used a 147 00:06:47,230 --> 00:06:44,090 computer model for Earth's atmosphere 148 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:47,240 magnetic field and gravity as proxies 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:50,570 for Proxima B they also calculated how 150 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:52,970 much radiation Proxima Centauri produces 151 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:55,130 on average based on observations 152 00:06:59,500 --> 00:06:56,889 gathered from NASA's Chandra x-ray 153 00:07:02,379 --> 00:06:59,510 Observatory in Proxima Centauri's 154 00:07:05,290 --> 00:07:02,389 habitable zone Proxima B encounters 155 00:07:07,390 --> 00:07:05,300 bouts of extreme ultraviolet radiation 156 00:07:09,610 --> 00:07:07,400 hundreds of times greater than Earth 157 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:09,620 does from the Sun that radiation 158 00:07:15,159 --> 00:07:12,350 generates enough energy to strip away 159 00:07:18,340 --> 00:07:15,169 not just the lightest molecules hydrogen 160 00:07:21,219 --> 00:07:18,350 for instance but also over time heavier 161 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:21,229 elements such as oxygen and nitrogen a 162 00:07:25,810 --> 00:07:23,330 space scientist at the University of 163 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:25,820 Massachusetts in Lowell Oh for a cohen 164 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:28,490 co-author of the study said this quote 165 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:31,370 the question is how much of the 166 00:07:36,159 --> 00:07:33,650 atmosphere is lost and how quickly does 167 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:36,169 this process occur if we estimate that 168 00:07:40,990 --> 00:07:39,050 time we can calculate how long it takes 169 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:41,000 the atmosphere to completely escape and 170 00:07:46,450 --> 00:07:43,280 compare that to the planet's lifetime 171 00:07:49,029 --> 00:07:46,460 end quotes the model shows Proxima 172 00:07:51,250 --> 00:07:49,039 Centauri's powerful radiation drains the 173 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:51,260 earth-like atmosphere as much as ten 174 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:54,289 thousand times faster than what happens 175 00:07:59,950 --> 00:07:57,440 on earth here's how Garcia sage explains 176 00:08:02,440 --> 00:07:59,960 it quote this was a simple calculation 177 00:08:05,140 --> 00:08:02,450 based on average activity from the host 178 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:05,150 star it doesn't consider variations like 179 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:06,889 extreme heating in the stars atmosphere 180 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:09,590 or violent stellar disturbances to the 181 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:12,410 exoplanets magnetic field things that we 182 00:08:18,010 --> 00:08:14,720 would expect provide even more ionizing 183 00:08:19,870 --> 00:08:18,020 radiation and Atmospheric escape but 184 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:19,880 it's orbital distance from its star 185 00:08:26,190 --> 00:08:23,180 Proxima Centauri the exoplanet Proxima 186 00:08:28,750 --> 00:08:26,200 be nearest known exoplanet to Earth 187 00:08:31,180 --> 00:08:28,760 likely could not sustain an earth-like 188 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:31,190 atmosphere and this is according to this 189 00:08:35,649 --> 00:08:34,310 new theoretical study Jeremy Drake an 190 00:08:37,209 --> 00:08:35,659 astrophysicist at the 191 00:08:39,550 --> 00:08:37,219 harvard-smithsonian Center for 192 00:08:43,180 --> 00:08:39,560 Astrophysics how author of this study 193 00:08:45,510 --> 00:08:43,190 said quote things can get interesting if 194 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:45,520 an exoplanet holds on to its atmosphere 195 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:48,770 but Proxima bees atmospheric loss rates 196 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:50,300 here are so high 197 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,910 that habitability is implausible this 198 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:55,040 questions the habitability of planets 199 00:09:01,360 --> 00:08:58,370 around such red dwarfs in general and 200 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:01,370 quotes so here's the bottom line Proxima 201 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:04,250 B is the nearest known exoplanet and it 202 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:07,250 orbits in its star's habitable zone but 203 00:09:11,980 --> 00:09:09,890 a new study suggests it might not be 204 00:09:14,430 --> 00:09:11,990 able to hold on to its atmosphere long 205 00:09:17,079 --> 00:09:14,440 enough for life to develop 206 00:09:20,650 --> 00:09:17,089 let's see what's been developing over at 207 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:20,660 ufos stalker comm shall we here's a UFO 208 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:22,399 sighting from Green Valley Lake 209 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:26,000 California its MUFON case number 85 for 210 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:29,360 63 the date of the sighting is the 26th 211 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:31,850 of July this year it was reported July 212 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:36,010 29th here's the summary took pics of 213 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:40,070 unusual pink and blue laced clouds later 214 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:43,730 saw blue long object first picture 215 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:46,250 breaks into four or five blue objects 216 00:09:52,569 --> 00:09:49,130 second picture object ascended in 217 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:52,579 seconds there are photographs obviously 218 00:09:56,829 --> 00:09:54,529 submitted with this account and you can 219 00:10:00,370 --> 00:09:56,839 find them later for your own analysis at 220 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:00,380 UFO headline news calm the viewing 221 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:03,380 distance here was 501 feet eventually 222 00:10:09,699 --> 00:10:07,010 one mile the altitude was over 500 feet 223 00:10:12,250 --> 00:10:09,709 and at the time over Green Valley Lake 224 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:12,260 California there was cloud cover the 225 00:10:17,079 --> 00:10:14,570 sighting duration one minute object 226 00:10:20,319 --> 00:10:17,089 features unknown object flight path 227 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:20,329 likewise unknown this object was shaped 228 00:10:27,130 --> 00:10:23,720 like a cylinder the temperature at the 229 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:27,140 time in California Green Valley Lake 77 230 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:29,930 degrees Fahrenheit 25 degrees Celsius 231 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:32,480 down to a minimum of 50 degrees 232 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:35,300 Fahrenheit 10 degrees Celsius the 233 00:10:40,510 --> 00:10:37,910 minimum maximum mean visibility all 234 00:10:42,699 --> 00:10:40,520 stacked up the same 10 miles 16 235 00:10:45,220 --> 00:10:42,709 kilometers and there wasn't anything you 236 00:10:48,490 --> 00:10:45,230 have normal about the weather however 237 00:10:52,060 --> 00:10:48,500 this it was something not normal and 238 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:52,070 here we go I was walking and praying on 239 00:10:56,650 --> 00:10:54,380 a Forest Service Road near my home in 240 00:10:58,900 --> 00:10:56,660 San Bernardino Mountains I was 241 00:11:00,910 --> 00:10:58,910 approximately 19 miles west of Big Bear 242 00:11:03,369 --> 00:11:00,920 Lake the elevation there is 243 00:11:06,669 --> 00:11:03,379 approximately 7,000 feet 244 00:11:09,669 --> 00:11:06,679 I looked up and noticed a beautiful pink 245 00:11:13,029 --> 00:11:09,679 and blue laced swirling cloud formation 246 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:13,039 I took two pictures with my iPhone at 247 00:11:18,909 --> 00:11:15,910 that time I didn't see anything unusual 248 00:11:23,079 --> 00:11:18,919 but later while viewing these pictures I 249 00:11:24,849 --> 00:11:23,089 noticed a blue cigar shaped object from 250 00:11:27,669 --> 00:11:24,859 the first to the second picture this 251 00:11:30,909 --> 00:11:27,679 object ascended at that point it broke 252 00:11:34,239 --> 00:11:30,919 into four or five objects of the same 253 00:11:36,939 --> 00:11:34,249 color but different shapes I have never 254 00:11:39,669 --> 00:11:36,949 seen anything like it before we have had 255 00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:39,679 some intermittent monsoonal clouds this 256 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:42,379 past week but this particular day was 257 00:11:46,259 --> 00:11:45,049 warm sunny and the skies were mostly 258 00:11:49,719 --> 00:11:46,269 clear 259 00:11:53,079 --> 00:11:49,729 very interesting walking and praying 260 00:11:55,749 --> 00:11:53,089 well could that be a possible candidate 261 00:11:58,449 --> 00:11:55,759 for that basket marked conscious contact 262 00:12:00,789 --> 00:11:58,459 and we leave it for your decision gentle 263 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:00,799 listeners now let's stay in the state of 264 00:12:07,869 --> 00:12:03,649 California but travel about 440 miles 265 00:12:10,509 --> 00:12:07,879 north a slight jog west oh if you know 266 00:12:12,579 --> 00:12:10,519 the way to San Jose it's right about 267 00:12:15,699 --> 00:12:12,589 there it's a city called Concord 268 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:15,709 California and it's the next sighting up 269 00:12:22,569 --> 00:12:18,529 move on has given it a case number for 270 00:12:25,419 --> 00:12:22,579 tracking and ID purposes that number 855 271 00:12:27,699 --> 00:12:25,429 one to the date of this sighting is July 272 00:12:31,439 --> 00:12:27,709 30th this year and it got a same-day 273 00:12:34,869 --> 00:12:31,449 report the summary floating and 274 00:12:36,549 --> 00:12:34,879 following the Ike's the sighting 275 00:12:41,259 --> 00:12:36,559 specifics include a viewing distance 276 00:12:45,249 --> 00:12:41,269 quite close 21 to 100 feet the altitude 277 00:12:47,499 --> 00:12:45,259 is described as landed and treetop the 278 00:12:49,449 --> 00:12:47,509 sighting duration five minutes this 279 00:12:52,119 --> 00:12:49,459 object features simply get that 280 00:12:54,849 --> 00:12:52,129 description of unknown its flight path 281 00:12:57,219 --> 00:12:54,859 was a straight-line path and then other 282 00:13:00,489 --> 00:12:57,229 and this object was shaped like a sphere 283 00:13:02,139 --> 00:13:00,499 here's the account first person I was 284 00:13:04,749 --> 00:13:02,149 taking a video of the night sky to 285 00:13:06,699 --> 00:13:04,759 hopefully catch a shooting star after I 286 00:13:09,189 --> 00:13:06,709 started recording I went inside for 287 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:09,199 something to drink and when I returned I 288 00:13:14,529 --> 00:13:12,049 noticed something floating down on my 289 00:13:15,939 --> 00:13:14,539 camera screen I looked up to confirm 290 00:13:19,070 --> 00:13:15,949 that what I'd seen on the screen was 291 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:19,080 really there it was definitely there 292 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:22,410 almost floating down changing shapes and 293 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:25,530 then it disappeared after it landed a 294 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:29,040 few minutes later I looked up and I saw 295 00:13:33,830 --> 00:13:31,440 another one moving in from west to east 296 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:33,840 right behind it was something with a 297 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:37,050 solid white light following that second 298 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:39,570 object and then they both went out of my 299 00:13:44,660 --> 00:13:42,270 sight line over the trees I'm uploading 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:44,670 two different videos of this one is raw 301 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:47,010 footage and the other is edited to try 302 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:50,100 to clear it up a bit however gentle 303 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:52,350 listeners don't bother to look for that 304 00:13:56,330 --> 00:13:54,240 video there was either a glitch in the 305 00:13:58,460 --> 00:13:56,340 matrix or gremlins in the pipeline 306 00:14:01,700 --> 00:13:58,470 somewhere there's even a comment here 307 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:01,710 after this submission from the submitter 308 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:04,590 it's someone called Mike and he says why 309 00:14:10,610 --> 00:14:07,740 did they not post my video well all we 310 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:10,620 can say is check out UFO stalker com 311 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:13,340 maybe somebody has corrected this issue 312 00:14:19,370 --> 00:14:16,020 alrighty then it's way back Wednesday 313 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:19,380 here is part two of our story alien 314 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:24,050 being shot dead by MPs January 18 315 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:27,270 1978 this features the military 316 00:14:32,570 --> 00:14:30,390 complexes at Fort Dix and Fort McGuire 317 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:32,580 in years to come they would be combined 318 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:34,530 but at that time they were two separate 319 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:38,220 entities more or less and just the recap 320 00:14:44,390 --> 00:14:40,710 here during the early morning hours of 321 00:14:47,210 --> 00:14:44,400 January 18th 1978 UFOs were sighted 322 00:14:49,190 --> 00:14:47,220 flying over Fort Dix and Fort McGuire 323 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:49,200 Air Force Base they were adjacent 324 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:52,800 military bases shortly afterwards an Air 325 00:14:56,990 --> 00:14:54,930 Force security patrol was ordered to go 326 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:57,000 to the back gate of McGuire Air Force 327 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:00,720 Base they needed to allow entry to at 328 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:02,760 Hackensack Meridian health we believe 329 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:04,560 the best healthcare is perfectly 330 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:05,540 orchestrated 331 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:07,950 researchers working with doctors to 332 00:15:12,380 --> 00:15:10,130 treat the most complex conditions 333 00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:12,390 specialists identifying problems sooner 334 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:14,880 and everything you need from primary 335 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:17,430 care to emergency care home health to 336 00:15:24,169 --> 00:15:21,270 rehab is all perfectly in tune here when 337 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:24,179 everyone works together your war gets 338 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:27,480 better Hackensack Meridian health life 339 00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:29,209 years ahead 340 00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:32,220 new jersey state police they were 341 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:35,399 searching for something one of the 342 00:15:40,789 --> 00:15:37,889 airmen on duty at that time was our hero 343 00:15:43,609 --> 00:15:40,799 here sergeant Jeff Morse nope not his 344 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:43,619 real name the state trooper from New 345 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:45,720 Jersey State Police told Morse that a 346 00:15:51,439 --> 00:15:48,959 Fort Dix MP military police had been 347 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:51,449 pursuing a low-flying object that had 348 00:15:57,439 --> 00:15:54,480 hovered over his car and then a small 349 00:16:01,280 --> 00:15:57,449 being with a large head and slender body 350 00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:01,290 appeared in front of his car the MP had 351 00:16:07,429 --> 00:16:03,660 panicked he'd shot that alien several 352 00:16:09,379 --> 00:16:07,439 times with a 45 automatic the being fled 353 00:16:12,439 --> 00:16:09,389 over the fence between the two bases 354 00:16:16,729 --> 00:16:12,449 before falling dying on the deserted 355 00:16:19,939 --> 00:16:16,739 runway a chaos ensued the usual cover up 356 00:16:22,369 --> 00:16:19,949 troops were brought in these troops also 357 00:16:25,309 --> 00:16:22,379 wore blue berets which were a feature of 358 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:25,319 these military bases but the faces were 359 00:16:29,689 --> 00:16:27,839 not familiar to Moore's or the others 360 00:16:31,849 --> 00:16:29,699 and they seemed to have arrived at the 361 00:16:33,859 --> 00:16:31,859 scene awfully quickly there is 362 00:16:36,409 --> 00:16:33,869 suggestion they were on the base all the 363 00:16:38,449 --> 00:16:36,419 time later that day a team from 364 00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:38,459 wright-patterson Air Force Base arrived 365 00:16:46,099 --> 00:16:43,199 in a c-141 cargo aircraft crated up the 366 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:46,109 body loaded it on board and took off 367 00:16:51,169 --> 00:16:49,019 Morse and his companion were warned not 368 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:51,179 to talk about the incident or they would 369 00:16:54,229 --> 00:16:52,439 be court-martialed 370 00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:54,239 two days later Morse and other 371 00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:55,649 participants were taken to 372 00:17:00,859 --> 00:16:57,839 wright-patterson air force base dayton 373 00:17:03,439 --> 00:17:00,869 ohio where they underwent intimidating 374 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:03,449 interrogation and were again warned not 375 00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:07,079 to talk about the incident we left off 376 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:10,199 last week with Morse not his real name 377 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:14,130 being ushered into a room for that 378 00:17:19,819 --> 00:17:17,130 examination as you recall the setting 379 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:19,829 was sparse wright-patterson like that of 380 00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:21,959 a court-martial room is how it's 381 00:17:28,250 --> 00:17:24,929 described a table and chairs in an 382 00:17:30,139 --> 00:17:28,260 unadorned room and we're picturing just 383 00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:30,149 very dirty windows for some reason a 384 00:17:37,159 --> 00:17:33,629 dark atmosphere here is how Jeff Morse 385 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:37,169 describes it quote while we were there 386 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:39,450 we were all together except for actual 387 00:17:44,690 --> 00:17:42,240 interrogations my interrogation had two 388 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:44,700 men one apparently a civilian with a 389 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,210 pipe and beard who never spoke at one 390 00:17:53,870 --> 00:17:50,400 point there were three men one played 391 00:17:57,530 --> 00:17:53,880 nice guy one mean guy and of course that 392 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:57,540 silent civilian all they wanted to know 393 00:18:02,420 --> 00:18:00,240 was the nature of the incident what I 394 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:02,430 knew and then they told me about my duty 395 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,120 to keep my mouth shut I signed a form 396 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:08,880 and it is supposed to bind me for life 397 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:12,390 and quotes never one says Morse recalls 398 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:14,520 did any of the interrogators offer 399 00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:17,010 information no explanation of this 400 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:19,980 incident nor did anyone ever refer to 401 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:22,980 they retrieved dead body which had been 402 00:18:27,350 --> 00:18:25,470 crated up and removed or suggests that 403 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:27,360 it might have been of extraterrestrial 404 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:30,480 origin said Morse they beat around the 405 00:18:35,870 --> 00:18:32,490 bush all the references to it were 406 00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:35,880 indirect and quotes the day after the 407 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:38,040 interrogation Morse returned to McGuire 408 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:40,680 was debriefed by his commanding officer 409 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:43,740 Lieutenant Colonel FM and released for 410 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:47,370 normal duty this incident he said was 411 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:50,340 not discussed again by anyone it was as 412 00:18:55,820 --> 00:18:52,250 though it had never happened 413 00:18:58,460 --> 00:18:55,830 here's the latest information the last 414 00:19:01,630 --> 00:18:58,470 section of this information is compiled 415 00:19:04,610 --> 00:19:01,640 by Leonard Springfield and Richard Hall 416 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:04,620 the former Air Force security policeman 417 00:19:11,330 --> 00:19:06,510 who claims to have witnessed a UFO 418 00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:11,340 incident On January 18th 1978 involving 419 00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:13,350 military police at McGuire Air Force 420 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:16,380 Base New Jersey and adjacent Fort Dix 421 00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:19,400 and New Jersey State Police recently 422 00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:22,200 visited the Washington DC area from 423 00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:25,230 overseas where he's employed and he met 424 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:26,940 with the authors of this report 425 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:30,810 Springfield and Hall the fund for UFO 426 00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:33,810 research an organization sponsored a 427 00:19:38,330 --> 00:19:35,820 mini conference to bring Springfield 428 00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:38,340 from Cincinnati Ohio and have 429 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:40,860 representatives of the fund meet with 430 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,290 the witness as to allow them to form 431 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:45,440 their own impressions of his credibility 432 00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:48,150 that mini conference took place on 433 00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:52,590 January 24th 1987 at a large shop in the 434 00:19:58,820 --> 00:19:55,860 Washington DC area suburbs in addition 435 00:20:01,039 --> 00:19:58,830 to authors Hall in Springfield and Jeff 436 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:01,049 Morse not his real name our witness 437 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:04,440 there was dr. Bruce s Maccabee chairman 438 00:20:09,740 --> 00:20:06,900 of the fund a big name really 439 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:09,750 well-respected researcher and William H 440 00:20:15,140 --> 00:20:12,570 Hall electronics engineer brother of 441 00:20:18,169 --> 00:20:15,150 Richard Hall were in attendance also 442 00:20:20,299 --> 00:20:18,179 present was dr. John B Carlson from the 443 00:20:23,419 --> 00:20:20,309 University of Maryland an astronomer and 444 00:20:26,029 --> 00:20:23,429 a fund board member was to have been 445 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:26,039 present but a postponement caused a 446 00:20:30,610 --> 00:20:28,289 reschedule and a conflict he was out of 447 00:20:33,049 --> 00:20:30,620 town on the date of that conference 448 00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:33,059 William hall a former technical 449 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,559 consultant to the National 450 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:36,240 investigations committee on aerial 451 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:38,940 phenomena we call them NICAP is 452 00:20:42,340 --> 00:20:40,770 substituted since he had a number of 453 00:20:44,539 --> 00:20:42,350 things in common with Jeff Morse 454 00:20:47,659 --> 00:20:44,549 including a military police background 455 00:20:49,789 --> 00:20:47,669 and overseas duty stations it was felt 456 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:49,799 he would have the ability to judge Jeff 457 00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:51,690 Morse as credibility as he talked about 458 00:20:57,950 --> 00:20:55,200 his activities by prior arrangement Jeff 459 00:21:00,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Morse remained incognito using only his 460 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:00,450 first name but he talked freely and 461 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:02,130 responded to questions by Bruce Maccabee 462 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:04,950 and William hall the authors of this 463 00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:07,289 article by the way do know his full name 464 00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:10,440 his employment status his past biography 465 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:13,799 etc during this questioning and review 466 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:16,049 of the alleged incident Morse filled in 467 00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:17,460 details that were missing from his 468 00:21:22,610 --> 00:21:20,039 previous account but nothing he offered 469 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:22,620 was startling or new a number of 470 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,600 questions were clarified and some new 471 00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:27,120 information including claims that can be 472 00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:29,700 checked and proved or disproved were 473 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:32,460 offered however Hall in Springfield 474 00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,470 again were impressed by Morse's 475 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:36,240 straightforwardness his lack of 476 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:38,850 embellishment the most significant new 477 00:21:43,130 --> 00:21:40,890 information related by Morris briefly 478 00:21:45,049 --> 00:21:43,140 was his claim that on a trip to the 479 00:21:48,490 --> 00:21:45,059 United States to visit his family in 480 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:48,500 October of 1986 he had been detained 481 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:51,779 while in California under obscure 482 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:54,960 pretenses outraged he filed a lawsuit 483 00:21:59,720 --> 00:21:56,760 against the california-based Authority 484 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,730 and notified Stringfield by letter that 485 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:01,740 he would return to the United States in 486 00:22:06,910 --> 00:22:04,169 January in 1987 for court appearances 487 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:06,920 and that that time he would be willing 488 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:09,110 to meet with Stringfield and dick Hall 489 00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:11,540 and a couple of well trusted other 490 00:22:17,530 --> 00:22:15,230 friends to discuss this matter but as it 491 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:17,540 turned out during Morse's layover in the 492 00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:19,460 states he could learn nothing about the 493 00:22:24,550 --> 00:22:22,100 cause or the reason for this California 494 00:22:26,890 --> 00:22:24,560 detainment nor the identity of the 495 00:22:30,130 --> 00:22:26,900 source who dictated the pick up and hold 496 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,140 order all of his legal probes for some 497 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:32,720 inexplicable reason had been stalled in 498 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:35,110 that tangle of red tape 499 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:37,250 among other things discussed at this 500 00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:39,110 mini conference was the entire question 501 00:22:44,590 --> 00:22:41,720 of alleged harassment of UFO crash 502 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,600 retrieval witnesses apparently in an 503 00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:46,720 attempt to intimidate them into silence 504 00:22:52,540 --> 00:22:50,300 if Jeff Morris's story is credible he is 505 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:52,550 potentially an important witness who 506 00:22:56,130 --> 00:22:54,710 would tend to undermine any official 507 00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:56,140 cover-up and 508 00:23:01,000 --> 00:22:58,220 unfortunately this makes him vulnerable 509 00:23:04,030 --> 00:23:01,010 to retaliation which may account for 510 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:04,040 this detainment it inhibits his ability 511 00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:06,130 to lead a normal life 512 00:23:11,670 --> 00:23:08,900 skepticism about crash retrieval reports 513 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:11,680 may be fully justified and entirely 514 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:14,030 understandable on the part of UFO 515 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:17,450 believers and disbelievers alike unless 516 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:20,090 they've met Jeff Morse or one of his 517 00:23:25,090 --> 00:23:23,330 many counterparts face-to-face Jeff 518 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:25,100 Morse has now provided many additional 519 00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:27,230 leads that the authors of this article 520 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:29,390 are intending to check and they will 521 00:23:35,710 --> 00:23:32,510 report those findings meanwhile the 522 00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:35,720 authenticity of the incident report form 523 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:37,940 from Morse the one he supplied to 524 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,430 Stringfield and thats reproduced by the 525 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:43,760 way in the MUFON 1985 UFO symposium 526 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:46,070 proceedings it was obtained from a 527 00:23:51,550 --> 00:23:49,070 colleague still on active duty and it's 528 00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:51,560 been disputed by the Air Force Office of 529 00:23:57,970 --> 00:23:54,520 Special Investigations of fuzzy on the 530 00:24:01,480 --> 00:23:57,980 grounds that the style and terminology 531 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:01,490 used allegedly does not follow proper 532 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:04,040 Air Force style and therefore is 533 00:24:08,170 --> 00:24:05,890 probably a hoax 534 00:24:11,290 --> 00:24:08,180 one of the key statements made by a 535 00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:11,300 fuzzy was that paygrades e 2 and e 3 536 00:24:18,370 --> 00:24:14,600 were given instead of ranks as corporal 537 00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:18,380 and sergeant on this official form aside 538 00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:20,390 from the fact that had claimed all along 539 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:23,060 this was a rough-draft a back room copy 540 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:25,910 subject to review and revision and that 541 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:28,370 minor errors would be corrected by 542 00:24:33,490 --> 00:24:30,890 responsible officials before the final 543 00:24:36,130 --> 00:24:33,500 report was filed this Air Force Office 544 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:36,140 of Special Investigations statement is 545 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:40,010 in accurate pay grades rather than ranks 546 00:24:43,290 --> 00:24:41,750 are routinely filed in official Air 547 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,300 Force reports 548 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:45,200 participants of the mini conference 549 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:47,170 discussed ways of obtaining additional 550 00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:49,610 information about this incident and 551 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:52,100 various initiatives are being undertaken 552 00:24:58,930 --> 00:24:55,460 to do so mind you this is a few years 553 00:25:01,210 --> 00:24:58,940 ago we haven't heard much lately but as 554 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:01,220 a result of this mini conference there 555 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:03,410 are two additional persons Bruce McAfee 556 00:25:08,770 --> 00:25:06,110 and William hall they've met now they've 557 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:08,780 talked with Jeff Morse personally they 558 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:10,910 can confirm that he is not a quote fairy 559 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:13,880 tale end quotes he's not a figment of 560 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:16,070 the imagination and they're now in a 561 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:18,430 position to help confirm or disconfirm 562 00:25:24,550 --> 00:25:22,130 his story there are official documents 563 00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,560 relating to this incident there's a link 564 00:25:29,890 --> 00:25:26,840 that you can find later at UFO headline 565 00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:29,900 news calm thanks again a tip of the hat 566 00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:32,630 to our man in the high castle for this 567 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:35,000 concept of this story or way back 568 00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:37,490 Wednesday if you'd like sleuth around 569 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:39,830 we're sure there might be pieces bits 570 00:25:44,590 --> 00:25:42,110 that you can find that we just couldn't 571 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:44,600 it's something to occupy one's time 572 00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:46,430 speaking of time we've got to fly 573 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:49,580 because that's a wrap thank you for 574 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:51,860 listening to inception radio network and 575 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:55,660 follow us on iTunes radio 576 00:26:02,520 --> 00:25:58,880 we're all in this together this is Carol 577 00:26:07,810 --> 00:26:05,200 okay keep your eyes closed okay I want 578 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:07,820 to show you my first ever painting all 579 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:10,540 right okay oh 580 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:15,230 that's a lot of colors and shades so be 581 00:26:20,650 --> 00:26:18,530 honest what do you think well I like how 582 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:20,660 if you switch to Geico you could save 583 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